Curse

pinoy474 · Nov 22, 2006, 05:20 AM // 05:20

This build works, but I don't know how effective/useful it would be.

Name - Pandora's Box
Credit - Me(I haven't seen a build like this yet, correct me if someone else has made it before me)

Warrior/Mesmer
Level: 20

Axe Mastery: 16 (12+4)
Tactics: 12

- Eviscerate [Elite] (Axe Mastery)
- Axe Rake (Axe Mastery)
- Axe Twist (Axe Mastery)
- Epidemic (Mesmer other)
- Frenzy (Warrior other)
- Sprint (Strength)
- Healing Signet (Tactics)
- Resurrection Signet ()

Stragety:
Your goal is to inflict deepwound / cripple / weakness on the target foe and all the allies adjacent to that target foe.

Hit Sprint and rush in to the target foe that is centered around his/her allies. As soon as u engauge the center target, hit Frenzy and start building up your adrenaline. When you have enough adrenaline, hit Eviscerate > Axe Rake > Axe Twist to inflict deepwound / cripple / weakness on the target foe. Immediately after, cast Epidemic on center target to spread the three conditions to all foes that are adjacent to center target. Rinse and Repeat.

Use Sprint as a cancel stance when ur taking damage.
Use Healing Signet to heal yourself.
Use Resurrection Signet to resurrect your dead allies.

**Marty Silverblade** · Nov 22, 2006, 06:00 AM // 06:00

This is for PvP right? If not then you probably need to rethink this build quite a bit.

Anyway, I'd drop the Weakness skill forExecutioners Strike so you have more spike potential. Weakness doesn't have much effect unless you use it on a Warrior, but Warriors aren't usually near other party members, making Epidemic a wasted slot.

I think a zealous weapon might be required, as Frenzy, Sprint, and Epidemic are all eating up your energy. I suppose it depends on how frequently you use Epidemic.

Anyway all your other skills are standard (Eviscerate, Frenzy, Sprint, Healing Signet, Resurrection Signet).

I rate it 6 1/2 out of 10

LightningHell · Nov 22, 2006, 07:57 AM // 07:57

Frenzy/Rush instead of Frenzy/Sprint.

15e on a Warrior is pretty hard.

6/10 for creativity, 3/10 for functionability.

Loshi · Nov 22, 2006, 08:04 AM // 08:04

Very closely resembles a ViM farming build, or ViMWay. Without the ViM.

Not really original.

If it's PvP, good luck getting your foes close enough together for Epidemic to work. If it's RA, it'll only work against 3 coordinated warriors (Which never happens) If it's HA, no one has that many Wars/Melee, if it's GvG, the conditions will be removed immediately.

All I could recommend is dropping Frenzy for Victory is Mine, and switching Evisc for Dismember, and using it for farming.

It could work for some farming places, I guess. Generic PvE, maybe, but there's better builds.

Nice try, I guess, maybe. *tries to say something positive*

It's nice to see Axe Twist actually used.

Thom Bangalter · Nov 22, 2006, 08:43 AM // 08:43

When I first started pvping, I ran axe twist.

lightning hell already said everything else I could add.

-.- · Nov 22, 2006, 09:03 AM // 09:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightningHell

Frenzy/Rush instead of Frenzy/Sprint.

15e on a Warrior is pretty hard.

6/10 for creativity, 3/10 for functionability.

Isn't Epidemic 5 Energy?

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Epidemic

**Marty Silverblade** · Nov 22, 2006, 10:18 AM // 10:18

I'm 95% sure it used to be 15 energy. Nice to know it got a buff. I only read the Warrior and Elementalist skill changes anyway

Yanman.be · Nov 22, 2006, 10:26 AM // 10:26

It used to be 15 energy, and 2 or 3 seconds cast time, with a smaller AoE. And I used it on a ranger back then...

LightningHell · Nov 22, 2006, 11:53 AM // 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by -.-

Isn't Epidemic 5 Energy?

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Epidemic

Good to know ANet is doing stuff to make previously laughable skills like Epidemic somewhat playable in joke builds.

Honestly, conditions (assuming PvP) are usually used as a part of a spike, or pressure. 1) there isn't usually anything to Epidemic to (people are smart and don't clump up together), 2) I hardly thing Deep Wound is anything to worry about outside of a spike, and 3) you can't kill as effectively than other warriors via this build unless you're facing a team in random arena with no condition removal.

In PvE, you should be busy killing stuff, not applying AoE Cripple. I don't see where it would be effective, anyway. Mobs generally don't clump up anymore.

Your build is basically a one-trick pony whose trick is more for the novelty of it rather than the usefulness of it. It can only be effectively used in a single way, and no other - not to say that the single reason is hardly something to run a character on. No offense.

Thom Bangalter · Nov 22, 2006, 12:17 PM // 12:17

Actually, while Deep wound is incredibly scary in a spike, what's even scarier are builds with cleave and deep wound is getting spammed on everybody. In a degen build, constantly wacking people with -100 health (or whatever, it varies) and keeping a stack of conditions on someone is insane. see: LaG's build. (I know you play in the early hours Lightning, so you haven't seen them play. their build is incredibly defensive and most of the pressure comes from teleporting cleave warriors--surprisingly, it's incredibly effective).

I think if we make it to the playoffs we're going to run something similar, I don't know. But I'll tell you one thing: epidemic won't be seen.

LightningHell · Nov 22, 2006, 03:10 PM // 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

Actually, while Deep wound is incredibly scary in a spike, what's even scarier are builds with cleave and deep wound is getting spammed on everybody. In a degen build, constantly wacking people with -100 health (or whatever, it varies) and keeping a stack of conditions on someone is insane. see: LaG's build. (I know you play in the early hours Lightning, so you haven't seen them play. their build is incredibly defensive and most of the pressure comes from teleporting cleave warriors--surprisingly, it's incredibly effective).

I think if we make it to the playoffs we're going to run something similar, I don't know. But I'll tell you one thing: epidemic won't be seen.

Point taken. But still, Epidemic is useless.

I can see the scariness, but that's kinda...new. The teleporting warriors spam Dismember on everyone, or something?

pinoy474 · Nov 22, 2006, 03:54 PM // 15:54

*tries to save some of his pride left*

I guess you could swap:
Eviscerate with Dismember
and
Axe Twist with Cleave
to make it have "spike potential" I guess.

Oh well I guess I failed *dies*

LightningHell · Nov 23, 2006, 02:42 AM // 02:42

Swapping it to Dismember-Cleave makes it worse, in this build, IMO.

Phoenix Arrows · Nov 23, 2006, 02:55 AM // 02:55

Evis > Cleave in spikes.

I think the point of your build isn't the best in PvP. The people will most likely be spread out, making Epidemic useless. It looks good on paper, but doesn't work out in reality.

qvtkc · Nov 23, 2006, 02:05 PM // 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightningHell

In PvE, you should be busy killing stuff, not applying AoE Cripple. I don't see where it would be effective, anyway. Mobs generally don't clump up anymore.

Well actually, if you're the only one in range, mobs do clump up, and AoE cripple prevents them from running when your elementalist starts pumping searing flames on them.

Then again you could just use a W/E with frozen burst instead.

Wretchman Drake · Nov 26, 2006, 06:41 PM // 18:41

You shouldn't use Epidemic for PvP, use something more useful like Shock

Thom Bangalter · Nov 27, 2006, 05:42 AM // 05:42

If you want aoe cripple, run a dervish.

And yeah, swapping to dismember->cleave would be worse. It just works for lag because the build is designed around it, and shadow prison. Obviously they don't use cleave, because shadow prison ties up the elite slot.

Michael Dennis · Nov 27, 2006, 11:30 PM // 23:30

ok people, for one this is a old build, tht goes way back to the ending of proph and beginning of factions (somewhere along those lines. so theres no need at all to get hiped up behind this! I mean come on wuts wrong with players today, its like no one is original ne more......so before u guys get all into a big discussion about this, look for a uild thts original, crazy, and out of this world b4 posting stupid builds such as this one! (No offense to the person tht came up with this, but seriously dude plz b original.)

Chrono Re delle Ere · Nov 28, 2006, 10:01 PM // 22:01

Well the point is thatweekness is useless if not applied on a warrior, and usually warriors don't simply stand near other teammates

Well the spread of deep wound would be a nice aoe, but a monk with exitinguish or a paragon with cautery signet would make it a "no problem". don't really like it soz